- Craps: Don’t Pass and Don’t Come, AKA the Dark Side. There are two common strategies often employed by dark side bettors that are expensive in the long run: ensuring the dark side bet with ‘any 7’ and picking up the Don’t Come or Don’t Pass if the point is 6 or 8.
- This video covers a craps betting strategy called the Don't Pass and Don't Come for Beginners. It covers the placing a don't pass bet on the come out roll follo.
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Justin
I wait three rolls before making any DC bets. This gets you past the early seven. Just make two DC bets.
If your first DC is a 4 or 10, lay odds and don't make anymore bets.
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Here's how it works. You put $5 on the don't pass line, and the point is 6. You lay $5 on the odds and place $5 in the don't come box. If the next roll is a 7, you would lose the $5 don't come, but win $10 on the don't pass. Chumba casino no deposit bonus codes. Wild orchid slot machine. A profit of $5. The next roll is 10. You now have $5 plus $5 odds on the don't pass and $5 on the don't come 10. You would now remove the odds bet on the don't pass.
By adding the odds bet to the don't pass when making a don't come bet, you are insuring a win if a 7 is thrown, instead of just breaking even.
Reprinted from an article in Chance magazine, with permission from the author, Larry Edell. Visit his site at Thecrapshooter.com
Bet only on Come out roll, bet Wrong. Bet on # 10 and after the come out roll remove your bet.
If 7 comes you win. You lose only if 10 comes. He will give you 50 for 100.
Or you may bet like this- 100 each on 4 and 10 Or 100 only on 4 OR 10.
If 4 or 10 comes you lose 100 but bet again Wrong that -the same # will not repeat.
Say you bet Wrong on 4 and 10 for 100 each (lay bets) on Come out roll.
4 came. you lose 100, then move 100 from 10 to 4 now and you may increase your bet to 200. If he does not roll 4 again you will get your lost 100. If he rolls 4 we will lose 200 now and total loss of 300.
Then restart.
We will have to win 3 times for 2 consecutive losses.
Variation-
Bet 100 on 10, if he rolls 10 then don't bet again, wait until he is done with the roll.
Bet on the next shooter. Come out roll only then remove the bet. Works best on cold tables.
I wait for the current shooter to seven-out, then I place a don't pass bet. If I lose, then I chase the bet. If the current shooter gets me again, I chase one more time at 2.5 times the original bet. e.g. I bet $5.lose, bet $10..lose, bet$15..if he doesn't 7 out by the third bet, I wait him out, and start over. Most casinos I've been to, the players rarely hold the dice to three point or instant winners. I consistently get ahead 10-30% before the inevitable trend and vig turn the tides against me. Maybe someone else will verify my results.mailto:[email protected]
I will call myself the dark sider for obvious reasons;
Answer these simple questions first.
1. What's the most powerful number on the table!
2. What number has the most probability to come out the most!
3. What number does the casino have on their side which enable them to make huge profits! SO WHY NOT YOU USE IT!!! MOST PROFESSIONAL PLAYERS DO!
HERE'S MY SYSTEM
1ST- $40 LAY ON THE 4 OR 10 (1.00 vig.) WHICH EVER THE table DOESN'T FAVOR and $20 don't pass. A $1 yo will also hedge the dp. Bet if the 11 is rolled. The lay bet lets you bypass the seven on the come out roll.
2ND- Once the point has been established take the lay bet down and put $34 inside (5,6,&8) no matter what the point is and a $5 field bet. That's $59 action on the table at risk.
3RD- You will win on the next roll; if it's a 5, 6 or 8 take it down. It will lock up a profit when you 7 out.
If it's a field number just keep making those bets. From this point on, you must play with the 3 f's (feel, finesse and fortitude) sense and knowledge is a must.
With this system you win on cold and choppy tables and also take advantage of hot rolls because you can always press those place bet or go up a unit on them. Get to the table your on.{ I have documents from casino's for tax purposes of my winning from 1996 to now.} If you have any questions you can e- mail me at [email protected] or [email protected]
You want to bet against a shooter making 4 consecutive passes.
You use the following progression: 10, 20, 40, 80
For example. You bet $10 on the don't pass. The shooter makes the point, you lose $10 and for the next point you bet $20 on the don't pass. The shooter doesn't make the point and you win $20. $10 profit on this shooter.
If you go up to and lose the $80 bet, stop making bets and wait for the next shooter.
Maintain your bet level when and for as long as you win. Example: You win your don't bet at the $40 level. You keep betting at this level until you lose. Start the progression over at $10 or if you are doing well, just drop down one level and start betting from there.
You can change this system to Don't by 3 and adjust the bet amount to what you are comfortable with.
First I look for a table where a player is making a don't come bet and then they take it down off the number that was rolled. Then I ask that player if I can pay him the amount of the bet he is taking down. This way I don't have to worry about losing the bet in the don't come box before it gets established. The house has an 8 to 3 edge over me when I have money in the don't come box, but once the DC is established I have the edge. 6 to 5 on the 6 & 8, 3 to 2 on the 5 & 9 and a big 2 to 1 on the 4 & 10.
I've had great success by playing this way. The only bad thing about playing this way is it takes time to win a small amount of money. But it's the only way to have a little edge over the casino. [email protected]
Here is a variation and/or combination of a couple of strategies I think I saw on this site.
Lay bet the 4 and 10 for $30 each and make a $30 don't pass bet and $2 on the yo.
Be sure the lay bets are working on the come out.
If the roll is:
2 - you win the don't pass bet and lose the yo.
3 - you win the don't pass bet and lose the yo.
12 - a push for the don't pass bet and lose the yo.
7 - win the no 4 and no 10, lose the yo, and lose the don't pass bet.
4 or 10 - four/ ten becomes the point and you lose the no 4/ 10 bet and the yo. Now, remove the remaining no 4/ 10 bet and take full odds on the don't pass bet and wait for the seven.
5 thru 9 - If five, six, eight, or nine become the point you remove the no 4 and no 10 and place the five for $10, the six for $12, the eight for $12, and the field for $5, for one roll only then take down the place bets and make a $30 place bet on the point number if it has not yet been hit.
Example 1:
Lay the 4 and 10 for $30 each plus the 'vig'.
$30 don't pass.
$2 on the yo.
Come out roll is a 4. Lose the no 4 bet and the yo. 4 is the point.
Remove the no 10 bet and place full odds on the don't pass bet and hope for a seven.
Example 2:
Lay the 4 and 10 for $30.
$30 on the don't pass.
$2 on the yo.
Come out roll is a 6. Six becomes the point. You lose the yo. Now remove the no 4 and no 10 bets and place bet the 5 for $10, the 6 for $12, the 8 for $12 and the field for $5. After one roll remove the place bets and place the remaining point number for $30. You will then have a $30 don't pass on the six and a $30 place bet on the six, a bet that can't be lost.
Donnie
I will share a play that is about the best way you can play it and it is against all books and advise of play, as you always advised to add odds, here you only add odds to replace losses.
Rules to follow:
1. Table should be 10x's odds or better, the higher the better. 5x's can work but gets hairy.
2. Have your bankroll in chips, recommended $5,000.
3: Doey/don't bet with lowest amount allowed, take double odds as if $5 bet.
4: Make 10 dc bet for first bet, increase by 5 each dc bet, except on 11-4-10-or point. If crap 2-3 leave up for double bet no add of 5.
5: If point hit, replace with same amount you had in odds on pass line.
6: Make same doey,don't bet and same double odds bet.
7: You start adding double odds on bets after the green chip is on that number as if it was a $5 bet, on second hit you increase to three times odds and 5 times if hit again, using small martingale, you would have to keep increasing our odds.
8: At $50 dc bet you would increase at $10 each dc bet. Try it and if you have any questions I would be glad to answer them.
9: You also must control the game with the boxman, if you do not have your bets down, yell out to hold up the dice, 'I have not got my bets down yet', as you can't do anything until dealer pays off last result. Believe me this is important, as you can lose some important replacements.
Have fun. Its hard to do on wincraps as it takes off the bet before you can see what you had on it, at the crap table you have enough time to see it. I use beat the house the older version, not the real old one though as that only 2x's odds. One more thing, on a real long roll and if you had a higher bankroll to start you would have to make a 100 do and 100 don't and $4 12 to get the odds. You might need mostly on a 5x's table, 100 never and 20 prob never but could happen on 10x's table. What's good about this is that you are only loaning out the money and when a 7 shows, which it will , it all come back.
LOU
Don't Pass
Here's my method of play:
Go to a table with very few people (looking for a cold table).
Make a DP bet then lay single odds. Keep betting on that shooter until he:
a) makes his point 2 times without throwing any naturals (7 or 11)
b) or rolls a natural, followed by any combination of 2 more naturals or 2 more points (for a total of 3 losses).
The idea is to stop betting on a shooter wants he starts beating you, then wait for the next shooter.
I use $5 base bets. Once I've won over $30, I increase my bets. If I lose $50, I leave or switch tables.
I've had great success with this method of play.
Comments are welcome.
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